Tremor to Pace NASCAR Camping World Truck Series Mich Nat'l Guard 200

"Mosqvich" (mosqvich)
08/12/2013 at 13:18 • Filed to: Tremor, Ford, Michigan International Speedway

The first EcoBoost ® -powered sport truck, which Ford has dubbed Tremor, will pace the August 17th NASCAR Truck Race at the Michigan International Speedway. !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! wrote up the story on the truck. For more detailed information on the truck itself take a look at his piece.

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Gratuitous tire abuse:

Photos courtesy Ford Motor Company

DISCUSSION (83)

Takuro Spirit > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 13:22

I missed the write up, but, umm, it's too damn high to be a proper "sport truck".

That ass is WAY up in the air.

Mosqvich > Takuro Spirit
08/12/2013 at 13:30

You make a good point. Here's the Lightning:

Kinja'd!!!

Here's a Tremor, not on a track:

Kinja'd!!!

Here's the Tremor smoking its tires:

Kinja'd!!!

Autolegend86 > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 13:33

Looks like another boring attempt at some edition of a Ford product.

Dargtron > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 13:36

Kinja'd!!!

Please automakers, stop with the cheesy vinyl stickers already- they ruin the looks of the vehicles you're trying to sell to us and look like the result of too many corporate "take your kids to work" days.

We didn't want them on the Raptor and we don't want them on this.

boxrocket > Dargtron
08/12/2013 at 13:42

Graphics are an option on the Raptor. The ones in the picture are on a pace truck, so big ADVERTISING effort.

Mosqvich > Autolegend86
08/12/2013 at 13:46

To be fair it has at least two substantive difference:

- An electronic locking rear differential that’s standard for both two- and four-wheel-drive versions helps deliver the power to the pavement by improving traction during takeoff. It all has a launch-optimized 4.10 rear axle. This axle is available on the FX4, but apparently not "launch optimized".

- The only truck with said axle in a regular cab vs an extended cab.

I get where you're coming from, but Ford has delivered the goods on these types of vehicles in the past. As Patrick pointed out in his piece: "It may not be a Raptor, or a Lightning, but it's a small and affordable performance truck with a turbo engine."

boxrocket > Takuro Spirit
08/12/2013 at 13:48

It's really not that high. Look at the Ram SRT-10 and Silverado SS as examples of too-tall.

RealRoadNews > Autolegend86
08/12/2013 at 13:49

http://realroadnews.kinja.com/ford-unveils-s…

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Mosqvich > boxrocket
08/12/2013 at 13:50

You actually have to order the graphics on the SVT Raptor. I imagine it will be the same on the Tremor.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Takuro Spirit
08/12/2013 at 13:51

Yeah but you can still do "truck stuff" like run over small things in the Tremor.

What's the point of a truck if you can't run anything over? I don't get those lowrider trucks...

Mosqvich > boxrocket
08/12/2013 at 13:52

And the Tremor can be 4WD, but I think the Lightening was limited to 2WD.

Shiftright > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 13:54

I do like the F-150, and if you put a gun to my head to buy a massive pickup to haul giant family packs of toilet paper from Costco, the Ford would be my first choice. However, a Sport Truck is as a great of an idea as a Sportscar Utility, Luxury Lawn Tractor or a Nissan Murano Cross cabriolet.

Autolegend86 > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 13:54

If i had a truck, i'm not gonna haul anything but an atv/motorbike, if i have a V6 Turbo truck, I'd want an attempt at a chassis that is lower and can handle as well.

I think what i'm really getting at is i wish there was a Ford Ranger option from overseas to buy in the states.

We need this. Not that F150.

Kinja'd!!!

jovimon7 > Takuro Spirit
08/12/2013 at 13:56

Kinja'd!!!

Gotta get dat ass down.

PilotMan > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 13:58

Kinja'd!!!

What's the price of this thing supposed to be? It's only competition would be the Ram 1500 Sport that starts at $34K. The Ram has 395hp/410'trq. You can also order a Ram Express and add the limited slip rear diff with 3:92 gears for about $26K if you want a basic pickup with almost 400 horsepower. The Ram would probably get better mileage if you drove it aggressively as well.

Nerd-Vol > PilotMan
08/12/2013 at 14:02

Under $27k.

662CHP > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 14:04

Can we get an f'ing Ranger with a diesel here in the states already?!?!? GEEZE!

JimSlade > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 14:07

Kinja'd!!!

i have sat up here before...

In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 14:08

I still want my Ford F-150 Boomslang

Insert 2013 Shelby Gt500 motor, lower it by 4 inches, give it good tires=

Best Tonka truck ever.

Mosqvich > Shiftright
08/12/2013 at 14:09

So you don't like the Parcour?

Pcleez > Dargtron
08/12/2013 at 14:10

Depends on who the "we" is. If the we is gear heads like us who love the raptor / tremor for their mechanical bits, then yes. If the we is the "OMFG those graphics are TIZIGHT look at my affliction tee brah!" (who btw, unfortunately, buy most of these vehicles), "we" very much so want graphics.

I was so into this truck until I saw the red piped seats, barf. Those and the black wheels gotta go.

Josh Welton > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 14:13

What is "affordable" now? I've heard it's gonna be 40k plus.....just the FX appearance stuff isn't cheap.

I've got a Ram R/T. Not really flashy, but it's a rcsb 2wd truck, and if the performance #s their talking about for this truck are accurate, mine is quicker. And the MSRP is low 30s.

Not terrible for a parts bin truck, but I think they should have stuck to 2wd, dropped it a bit, and left off the side rails to be a better "sport" truck.

OhDoy > Autolegend86
08/12/2013 at 14:14

If that new Ranger is as big as the Toyota Hilux, then it's just a little big smaller than the F-150. Noticeable difference, but something tells me you people will be blaming Obama for the change.

In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you > In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you
08/12/2013 at 14:15

It would be better with 2 JZ/13B Rotary though

Josh Welton > Nerd-Vol
08/12/2013 at 14:15

Where did you hear that?

If it's under $27k, they won't be able to keep them in stock. But I've heard 40k, and with the drivetrain, interior, and appearance package...that makes way more sense.

Mosqvich > Josh Welton
08/12/2013 at 14:18

I think it would be $40k-ish. No doubt. The FX4 is $43k starting out. However, this will be a regular cab, that might drop the price down before all the goodies kicks it back up again.

Ntovorni > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 14:18

Kinja'd!!!

What's the truck called again?

Takuro Spirit > boxrocket
08/12/2013 at 14:20

Comparing the axle centerline to the bottom of the body.... no, they're not as high.

Kinja'd!!!

Takuro Spirit > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 14:21

It was. And if you can get the Tremor in 4WD, it doesn't excuse not using a different ride height for 2WD versus 4WD.

Its one of the major complaints I have with current full size trucks. The damn 2WD are as high off the ground as 4WD.

And they're TOO DAMN BIG.

Autolegend86 > OhDoy
08/12/2013 at 14:22

Wut?

I want smaller truck for less weight. Again, some of us want a lighter Pre Runner or 4x4 Taco build.

EDogg > In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you
08/12/2013 at 14:25

Lately I've been thinking it would be pretty badass to get a 2nd 3rd gen. F-100 and drop the 2013 GT500 motor and drivetrain in it (probably easier just to put the F-100 on the GT500 chassis..., haha)

EDogg > Ntovorni
08/12/2013 at 14:26

Seriously, overkill!!

EDogg > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 14:26

Kinja'd!!!

Nobody came to see the Tremor?? I would have been front and center.

EDogg > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 14:28

In case all you were wondering, the Tremor was marketed to me, and I have a feeling to me only. Only thing it's missing is a floor mounted manual. 6.2L would be nice too.

Nerd-Vol > Josh Welton
08/12/2013 at 14:28

http://jalopnik.com/the-ford-f-150…

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Josh Welton > Nerd-Vol
08/12/2013 at 14:33

They would sell eleventy billion of those if it hits that price point. I don't see it happening.

Outgoing truck model, parts bin stuff....wouldn't be a bad idea though,lower price instead of big rebates. Although I'm not sure how it would effect value on next gen? Might make a price jump look worse.

PilotMan > Nerd-Vol
08/12/2013 at 14:34

That's a dang good price if it sells at $27K.

Nerd-Vol > Josh Welton
08/12/2013 at 14:34

No clue. It would be a great value at $27k though.

Josh Welton > Nerd-Vol
08/12/2013 at 14:35

hells yeah it would.

EDogg > 662CHP
08/12/2013 at 14:41

I don't think the Tremor is in any way, shape or form marketed to people who want a diesel Ranger.

boxrocket > Takuro Spirit
08/12/2013 at 14:41

Simple solution: Ford brings the Ranger and Falcon Ute to the US. Choices abound, everyone is happy.

Eosa > PilotMan
08/12/2013 at 14:44

The tremor compete's with the Ram R/T, 4.10 rear gear with a different stall convertor, and the upscale interior

EDogg > PilotMan
08/12/2013 at 14:44

Even if Ford can get the Tremor out the door for 34k I think it will be competitive with the Ram Express. The interior on the Ram Express is god awful, and 4x4 availability on the Tremor is a great feature. If they price it at 40k+ it will be a damn shame because then I'll just buy the damn Ram, and I'm a Ford guy.

M54B30 > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 14:58

Looks nice - but I've got a kid on the way and a regular cab truck is hard to justify. Also, I'm stationed in South Dakota, 2WD just ain't gonna work for me.

Shiftright > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 14:59

I do, because it's a hybrid of sorts, specifically engineered to be what it is, as opposed to something that starts as a very specialized vehicle for towing and hauling, hence massive size, heavy solid axles, heavy body-on-ladder-frame construction, etc, that is made into a 'sport' something because it has a ton of horsepower. Yes, you can make it handle, steer and brake better than a stock F-150, but it's still very compromised. The ultimate irony is that most sport trucks have a reduced towing and load capacity.

Mosqvich > M54B30
08/12/2013 at 15:10

It appears you're out of luck on the cab, but that could change, however it is available in 4WD.

92LX302 > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 16:04

Want. One. So. Bad.

With the power Livernois Motorsports can crank out of SHOs, I can only imagine what they'll do on a RWD platform with the guts & strenght to handle it.

satalac > Dargtron
08/12/2013 at 16:15

Yeah, why would you want to advertise a new truck in front of a bunch of NASCAR fans? That'd just be silly......

MrEvil > Josh Welton
08/12/2013 at 18:21

The FX package likely won't break the bank on this truck since you're not buying an upgraded interior for a second row of seats. Supercab and Supercrew add a bit to the price of an F150. Also, I doubt these are going to hit dealers with huge markups. Expect them to be advertised on dealer lots for about 30k. FX2 supercrews run around 35k and FX4 Supercrews run right at about 40k. No way a regular cab shortbed pickup is going to bring 40k with a standard Ecoboost.

cluelessk > Takuro Spirit
08/12/2013 at 19:23

It's because it's practical.

First things first it's a truck, Not a sports car.

Kyd302 > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 19:37

The Lightning was a Bad ass truck, The Raptor is a Bad Ass truck, The Tremor is going to be a bad ass truck...............................................FORD NEEDS TO PUT A MANUAL TRANSMISSION BACK INTO THE F150's.

Kyd302 > M54B30
08/12/2013 at 19:46

A kid on the way here's your best solution Tell the wife/gf/fiance to get an SUV an then you can get the truck an you can swap vehicles depending on who's dealing with the kid. You could go the explorer sport with the ecoboost engine i recently drove one an liked it alot. It scoots pretty good for it's size.

Kyd302 > In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you
08/12/2013 at 19:53

Really a wrankel? Most unreliable engines ever made you'd be changing apex seals more then it'd move. The 2jz is imo over rated sure it's a great motor that holds power but any engine with forged internals is capable of doing that. The only reason the engine got any fame is because everything is forged from the factory so you don't have to build the motor before you mod it.

F50F60 > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 19:56

They should have just made a regular cab Raptor. I liked the RAM SRT10 w/4-Doors.

Takuro Spirit > cluelessk
08/12/2013 at 19:59

A 2WD truck can still be low, usable, have a bed that can carry shit, and a towing capacity of this jacked up excuse for a SPORTS truck.

Case in point, I lived with a lowered 2WD Silverado for quite some time, and with the addition of air shocks, it could still haul and tow the same or better than it could stock.

OptoSmash > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 20:33

the graphic on the raptor are optional

cluelessk > Takuro Spirit
08/12/2013 at 20:49

Let me guess you live somewhere with mild Winters and good roads...

This truck is built to satisfy the needs of the majority. Most people prefer a truck to be truck height.

Rwlong > Mosqvich
08/12/2013 at 22:39

He's upset! Don't bother him with facts!

Rwlong > Shiftright
08/12/2013 at 22:49

But it still can preform many more duties and functions than can almost any other vehicle, save a full size van! (and do you really want to be that guy?). It can work, play and still do your daily commute. My gas mileage is no worse then my old Mustang and better then my old Ranger. (RIP). I did not want a full size truck as a DD but had to for my business. I have been surprised how easy it has been to live with. Though if I could I'd trade it for a Sportier car any day, it would just have to have the hauling capacity of my F-150. I can't afford both!

Takuro Spirit > cluelessk
08/12/2013 at 23:19

Wisconsin sooooo not so much. Drove it all last winter, too.

7liter12598723 > Autolegend86
08/12/2013 at 23:42

That's the problem, it's not all that smaller, and it doesn't weigh all that much less.

Which is my biggest fear for the reintroduction of the Colorado, that they'll make it too big and too expensive.

cluelessk > Takuro Spirit
08/13/2013 at 00:05

That's not what I'd consider a ton of snow though.

Suburban Fart Can > Mosqvich
08/13/2013 at 01:23

Kinja'd!!!

My only complaint? No flare sides. I just want a goddamn short bed with flare sides. Is that too much to ask?

Mosqvich > Suburban Fart Can
08/13/2013 at 02:04

A reasonable request.

TheNorthernSpeed3 > cluelessk
08/13/2013 at 04:59

I live in Calgary, AB, Canada we get a fair amount of snow, honestly as long as you have say 4-10 inches of clearance with snow tyres and dont drive like a ass hat, you'll be fine you don't need to be that high in the air.

Mr Rove 78 > Autolegend86
08/13/2013 at 06:33

Would a 4-wheeler fit between the wheel wells?

cluelessk > TheNorthernSpeed3
08/13/2013 at 07:13

Still for the majority of guys that buy the truck they'll never want it lower.

It doesn't make sense for Ford to make a truck only appeal to a small group of people.

Odin the S60RD > PilotMan
08/13/2013 at 08:11

The Tremor would compete more with the Ram R/T then the Express. The R/T has a different torque converter and a 4.10 LSD to get the power down better. Unfortunately it still only uses a stock 5.7L.

Dargtron > satalac
08/13/2013 at 08:37

The advertising could have been done better if these are the graphics they've chosen. My issue is that these (cheesy stickers) will most definitely make it to production and will probably not be 'optional'.

Dargtron > Rwlong
08/13/2013 at 08:43

Venting actually. I gladly accept factual information as such and thanks for pointing out that they're optional graphics... I'll be slightly less disgusted. I just get mad when I see something with a lot of potential ruined by poorly-placed/designed stickers or 'go-faster' stripes.

satalac > Dargtron
08/13/2013 at 10:27

Why? It tells people exactly what it is. You know....like a NASCAR vehicle. Not that I like them either, but it's marketing. I HIGHLY doubt that these stickers will be forced upon buyers. Hell, they aren't even the same ones that Ford showed originally.

Kinja'd!!!

Honestly, I could deal with this one.

Dargtron > satalac
08/13/2013 at 10:36

Fair, the 'Tremor' on that example is much more toned-down.
I would think that- with an infield replete with billboards- they would be able to toss an ad or two for the trucks up on those... or whatever the equivalent of the videotron is. Maybe even show them laying a little rubber or doing a fast-lap- to demonstrate the performance aspect that they're trying to sell the truck based on. I'm not sure about track rules, or if such hoonage would compromise a track's surface before a race- but I'll throw it out there

The World of Vee > EDogg
08/13/2013 at 11:26

i'm in the same boat...furiously runs over to carmax to check SRT-10 Ram prices again

The World of Vee > Mosqvich
08/13/2013 at 11:28

gahhhh those are sexy pick ups...and it'd be really cool if they offered it in a manual...like i'd buy it cool...

oh and because I'm cheesy, I would get a RWD and lower it a bit (like them lowered SRT10s) and if SVT made an appearance package, I'd get it.

The World of Vee > Takuro Spirit
08/13/2013 at 11:29

it is high, but it looks much higher in those press shots because they're on a banked track.

but don't worry, there is no law that voids a warranty if you replace the shocks and springs on your truck

EDogg > The World of Vee
08/13/2013 at 12:07

The SRT 10 is such a sweet ride, and the prices are great. Delete the ridiculous spoiler and I'm all in. Actually, the only thing that really bugs me about the SRT10 is it's not 4x4. I'm a truck guy through and through, and for me a truck has 4x4.

The World of Vee > EDogg
08/13/2013 at 12:16

i think the RWD kind of "made" the SRT-10.

But seriously, a 2006 model regular cab with the interior luxury package is one of my ideal trucks.

2 seats, proper center console, proper dash with a real navigation system, 8.3l engine making 550hp, a hard tonneu cover which is removable (for bed rider seats!, and a removable spoiler (i'm cheesy and think it's cool haha)

The 06 was the facelift of that generation and there were a handful of SRT-10s made like that...so you can get real plastics not the crap that the older Rams had and comfy buckets instead of a bench and all that jazz

The World of Vee > EDogg
08/13/2013 at 12:18

Kinja'd!!!

subtract the rear doors and you get what i mean

EDogg > The World of Vee
08/13/2013 at 12:21

Agreed, regular cab - short bed is the only way to go.

EDogg > The World of Vee
08/13/2013 at 13:33

Great, now you have me looking at SRT 10's all day.

662CHP > EDogg
08/14/2013 at 08:26

Not saying that it is. Just saying that effort @ Ford could be applied to other things.

EDogg > EDogg
08/18/2013 at 10:27

Incase you are actually interested, the lead designer for the Tremor, Brian Bell, held a live chat on edmunds.com about the Tremor.

He confirmed it will start at $38k. Which is ridiculous considering the competition.

You can get a rcsb tundra with a 5.7l negotiated for ~$32k. The ram express rcsb starts at $26k. A Ram SRT-10 with a viper V-10, rcsb, and MANUAL can be had for 25-35k with low miles.

In short: I'm out.

Full chat here:

F-150 Tremor Talk with Brian Bell, F-150 Marketing Manager

Ford really screwed the pooch on this one. By the time you add the options you are in Raptor territory.

Josh Welton > Nerd-Vol
08/30/2013 at 15:29

Unfortunately, it looks like I was right:

Kinja'd!!!